Phish lyricist and collaborator Tom Marshall unveiled another episode of his Under the Scales podcast, this time featuring LivePhish’s Eli Tishberg, who directs most of the Phish webcasts while the band is on tour.

Much of the discussion centers around Tishberg’s role on a show day that includes a webcast, revealing such details of how he directs the show on the fly using various cues. Tishberg also touched on recent Phish performances including their Halloween cover of The Rise & Fall of Ziggy Stardust and much more.

Listen below.