In a new interview with Rolling Stone, Page McConnell discusses details regarding Phish’s newest album Sigma Oasis. The interview also touches on comparisons between Phish and the Grateful Dead, Phish Food ice cream, watching bandmate Trey Anastasio perform during Fare Thee Well and how Phish will continue during the coronavirus crisis.
“The process was just a little bit different than it had been on the last two [albums],” McConnell said of Sigma Oasis. “We weren’t working with an outside producer, and we’d actually gone into the session with the idea that we were going to do another four-way writing session, and do one in the afternoon and one in the morning. It just ended up that we focused on this.”
“In terms of my playing, I’m really happy with a lot of the piano playing. In the past, it’s hard for me sometimes to listen to some of my playing, and I don’t actually listen to our records, but I have listened to bits of this over the last couple weeks,” McConnell explained. “It’s still holding up. I spent probably five or six days doing overdubs in my studio, which actually is where I am now. It wasn’t something I had necessarily planned on doing, but I just really dove in and reorganized my studio, had all my keyboards in one room and was able to just roll through these songs. Some of them I spent quite a bit of time on. A song like ‘Thread,’ I probably was working on for five days straight, just on keyboards.”
When asked about Phish gaining Grateful Dead fans when the Dead stopped playing, the keyboardist pushed back a bit. “You know, just to back up to the premise of the question, although when the Dead stopped playing, there was certainly the perception that all these fans came over to us,” he said. “From my perspective, when that was actually happening, the Dead fans didn’t think as much of Phish as they did of the Dead, and vice versa.”
“But what ended up happening was the real influence that I felt when the Dead stopped was all the people that came to Phish weren’t there for the music,” McConnell continued. “They were there to sell stuff in the lots and try to make money. It was a little bit of an ugly scene, sort of the darker underbelly of their scene just came over to our lot because it was the next lot. Not because they liked Phish.”
“I think actually, after Trey did the Fare Thee Well concerts, I saw a lot of people that very next tour that looked like old Deadheads that were coming to check us out that hadn’t seen us before,” he concluded.
When asked if he went to the Fare Thee Well shows, McConnell noted that he was there and that it was an extremely cool experience. “I went to all three in Chicago. It was so fun,” he explained. “First of all, I had never seen Trey up on a big stage before. Certainly not a big-ass stage like Soldier Field. To see him up there, and for me to be able to go to a concert and see Trey up there playing, jamming on all these songs I know with my friends was an experience I’d never had before. My friends go to see Phish, and they get that experience all the time, but I’d never had it.”
Later in the interview, McConnell admitted that he eats “more Cherry Garcia than Phish Food.”
Finally, McConnell was asked about the state of Phish during the coronavirus outbreak. “Mass gatherings: it’s the thing you can’t do, and it’s the thing that we do. I do my best to try not to look too far forward, and just try and be present with the kids,” he said.
Read the full interview here.


16 Comments comments associated with this post
Sideshow Bob
May 1, 2020 at 6:00 pmGo Vince yourself
Kenny Holtzman
May 1, 2020 at 4:03 pmphish doesn’t even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as the dead
please don’t flatter their already insufferable fans !
SideShow Bob
April 30, 2020 at 2:38 pmWeren’t Dark forces?!
You obviously never got ripped off by Fast Freddie and the Wrecking Crew for a sheet of blotter like me and Zippy
Dan
April 30, 2020 at 2:25 pmUgh.. the never ending saga of who is better blah blah blah… I saw the Grateful Dead many times and consider myself a Deadhead. I also got into Phish and love them for their unique sound and jamming style. A also love the Allman Brothers and Panic and now Spafford. No two of them are alike but they all move me in ways no other music can. So you like one more than the other, no one cares, just like if you’re Vegan literally no one but you cares. Go see and enjoy what you want and don’t go to what you don’t like, I know its a complex process since you already know who you like! /S/
There should be a requirement for your age and who you’ve actually seen in person before you are allowed to say such and such is better. A 25 year old Phish Wook that thinks GD sucks never saw them. Yet I did and when I 1st saw a Phish show I felt right at home even with a different music style. Not sure what dark forces entered the Phish scene after the Dead as there weren’t dark forces at Dead shows to begin with to transfer over.
SideShow Bob
April 30, 2020 at 2:00 pmPhish blows the Dead away.
I wasted 30 years of my life listening to bad Dark Stars.
Even Bucky agrees.
Da Man
April 30, 2020 at 1:50 pmI thought it was good interview and I enjoyed myself…
first phish was biddy mulligans,a chicago bar 1991 (20+ shows and counting) not counting solo trey, last was GOTF LA greek
first dead was 1982 UCLA (150+ shows last the final jerry concert in chiago)
charles printz
April 30, 2020 at 1:22 pmcuz heaven’s knows fans of middle men who jump up and down on trampolines and sing about lizards and monkeys to raging light shows and glow stick wars understand the subtleties of dead music right?
lolol @ phish fans
” the Dead fans didn’t think as much of Phish as they did of the Dead, and vice versa.”
peter north
April 30, 2020 at 1:27 pmlol, right?
dumb ass “phans”
thinking they understand the dead.
oh, haven’t you heard?
they all happened to big zappa and talking heads experts too !
ROFLMAO!!!
Chuck P
April 30, 2020 at 1:55 pmSubtleties? Ha, I just watched (as much as I could handle) that Shakedown Stream from last week of Buckeye Lake ’93. Nothing says subtlety like embarrassing Dylan covers (Phil caterwauling on Tom Thumb, and Weir over-howling on Masterpiece – at least he had Jorts on), really bad blues slide guitar (Same Thing), and Jer Bear flubbing lyrics left and right. Not to mention that everything is at least 10 to 20 beats per minute too slow.
No kidding
April 30, 2020 at 12:58 pmSeriously, nice interview. The same questions these guys got 25 years ago. Who cares? The silly universe of Rolling Stone relies on simple music genre definitions and top 100 best of lists…ugh
Jersey Mike
April 30, 2020 at 12:40 pmThis story missed all the hard hitting questions like:
What other sandwiches does Page like?
When he goes to Jazzfest, does he get a po’ boy or muffellata?
Is he a Pastrami or Corned Beef guy?
What’s his favorite NY deli?
TellsemlikeIsmellsem!!!
April 30, 2020 at 11:21 amPretty lame reporters can’t interview these guys without always bringing up the Dead. Phish is such a different beast. Give them some credit for continuing to evolve not only as a band, but also a scene. I wouldn’t be a phish fan if any member died, they changed their name, and continued to tour without writing new music for the last 25 years. Just sayin’
not gay for trey
April 30, 2020 at 11:17 amIf music was food, The Grateful Dead would be a thanksgiving Feast and Phish would be Pezz candy.
me
April 30, 2020 at 11:23 amNice comparison! You’re right, both are awesome in their own way and neither are alike!
Not gayer for Mayer
April 30, 2020 at 11:28 amKeep living the dream fanboy. What are you on your hundredth rendition of patched together bands covering music that’s been devolving for 25 years? Hope you get the El Paso you’ve been chasing😂😂
Carl “The Truth” Williams
April 30, 2020 at 1:09 pmThe Dark Star>El Paso>Dark Star in Eugene 2018 was better than anything Phish has done in 20 years.