Dave Matthews appeared on CBS This Morning yesterday for a wide-ranging interview with John Dickerson that covered topics from the musician and his band’s Charlottesville, VA roots, giving back to their community, the magic of collaborative music and more, plus what Matthews would do if he ever retires from the road.

The main portion of the CBS segment sees Matthews and Dickerson discussing Charlottesville and even shows the duo walking around the city, with Matthews pointing out some key locations from his early career. Matthews talks about his childhood spent between the city and South Africa, during the years of Apartheid, then connects it with the infamous white supremacist Unite the Right gathering and riots in Charlottesville in 2017, which resulted in the death of Heather Heyer.

“It’s very hard when you look at what happened in this town—the destruction of a beautiful possibility,” Matthews says. “It broke my heart to see it happen. But I do think that we can make some beautiful progress out of it.” Dickerson then notes the Concert For Charlottesville and Matthews and his band’s efforts to raise money for affordable housing in Charlottesville.

Elsewhere in the interview, a portion of which can be viewed in four parts below, Matthews discusses how lucky he feels for his successes and why he tries to give back to others because of it, plus his ongoing attempt to figure out what it is about collaborative music that is so special. He cites a conversation with Ben Jaffe of Preservation Hall Jazz Band on the magic of New Orleans music, noting that Jaffe claims that “freedom” is the main component.

Finally, Dickerson brings up the topic of possible retirement for Matthews, who has been on tour with his band nearly constantly for years. Matthews says he has no “immediate” retirement plans but that he dreams about “living in a hut in Kenya and growing my facial hair. I always thing about ‘something else.’ Or going into a room and painting pictures until I die. But I feel very grateful for being able to make a noise with people who want to make a noise. It’s a beautiful opportunity.”